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Post by ashleigh04 on May 30, 2006 15:27:05 GMT -5
I've been thinking this for a while and needed to get it off my chest.
About Bayard. What was it with her? What did she do?
Please answer yaaaay @@@
lol.
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Post by Crow'sia on May 30, 2006 18:50:22 GMT -5
Nothing really for sure. Bayard owned NSE orginally and gave it to me after she left. When she came back most people were like 'Yay!' but Kinneh was brutally honest (hey, no one else had the guts), so she left again. But then mysteriously after she was online all the boards went poof, and the headers (anything easily deleted I guess, or something) and I posted on the Proboard Support forums asking if it were a glitch. Because they said server 46 (the one we are on) was perfectly fine it had to be a member (or maybe someone hacked, don't know). Bayard was the only person with the ability to delete things. I don't think we'll ever know for sure.
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Post by Kindred Blue on May 31, 2006 4:43:10 GMT -5
Seem the Bayard thing is a legend of NSE, haha. But legend is too nice word, so lets have myth C:
Crow tells it like it is. I'd tell it too, but my version would be long and detailed and boring. :3
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Post by Meg on May 31, 2006 20:08:50 GMT -5
I wanna read Kinneh's.
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Post by Crow'sia on May 31, 2006 20:57:54 GMT -5
Yeppers. Tell us... or I throw cake at joo! Mwahahaha. You know you want to.
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Post by ashleigh04 on Jun 1, 2006 4:35:18 GMT -5
lol Kinneh tell us!
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Post by cherry on Jun 1, 2006 4:56:32 GMT -5
I didn't like Bayard anyway.
(isn't there another nse out there bayard made on geocities/freewebs?)
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Post by Meg on Jun 1, 2006 10:09:30 GMT -5
Yeah... But it looks like it didn't get on it's feet.
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Post by Kindred Blue on Jun 1, 2006 14:17:39 GMT -5
Well, if you really insist (: But you'll have to excuse me, because I'm really on a high.. for reasons I may later explain 'cause I know how you all love my life (:
Are we all sitting comfortably? NO? OHWELL.
Bayard was pretty odd (: I've always been a good judge of character and she just creeped me. I didn't like her all that much, and whats more, I didnt like the way she ran NSE. Hazel had brought me here.. and I mean I dont want to brag but I know how to run a site, and I know how to run it well. I ran the most successful fox RPG ever to have crossed the internet - so I knew how things should work, and they damn well werent working right.
So I messaged Bayard with the idea for the slash method, to enforce the rules better and get people making better posts. Obviously it went off without a hitch and people were all 'WHO DA FUCK IS SHE STRIDING IN ALL HIGH AND MIGHTY TRYING TO RUN US???' and naturally, I said 'I'm Kindred, great to meet you to (: NO GET THOSE FOUR LINES COMING PHOO.' Cause Im a slavedriver.
Some which way.. I ended up being a Moderator, but my buddy Hazel got demoted on my behalf, moved down to mod int Training.. and dude, that just wasnt right! So I kept hinting to give her her job back, and Bayard was pretty bitchy, saying she'd consider it but pointing out things she did wrong and then saying that her choice in Mods was dreadful at the moment but she was fixing it up. I asked her why Hazel wasn't a good moderator, and she actually gave me a LIST. A fucking list!! Ive still got the message (infact Crow, you should have my messages on your account if you havent erased them) and it outrages me; Hazel is an awesome mod. As far as I was concerned, Bayard could get screwed - but I knew, to make a change, I had to have a position of authority, so I kept my mouth shut and very quietly ran the shots. No bigheadedness there.. I generally gave Bayard the ideas, she inputted them and took the credit. But it worked out for NSE.
Needless to say, I didnt like our Admin.
And yada yada, NSE carried on, and then Bayard packed up and left - leaving our dear Crow in charge. Crow was the real star of NSE - it was Crow who widened the members, Crow who ran the place properly, Crow with whom nobody had ANY problems. Crow who made NSE famous.
So famous, Bayard got wind of it and came crawling back. And everybody threw flowers at her feet!
"Welcome back Bayard!" "I missed you Bayard!" "NSE hasn't been the same without you!!" What. A. Load. Of. Shit. NSE was ten thousand times better without the fool and I was the only one willing to say it.
So I said it.
I told her exactly what I thought - she'd heard how well NSE was doing under Crow's wing, and came cawling back to steal some glory. I think the famous line was actually 'We didn't need you then. We damn well don't need you now.' If you guys have seen one of my rants (or been unlucky enough to be on the recieving end, but I think the only others were Amber (who also left, aren't I a people person) and Hazel), you'll know I can be harsh and you'll know I'm brutally honest. It all went on behind the scenes, in the Mod board, and before Bayard even saw it I got a filthy response from Amber which made me lose all respect for her (if there'd be any to start with).
Bayard couldn't handle it, clearly :3 Next thing I know, NSE had 'magically' lost its boards, its posts, everything - and aside from Crow, only Bayard had the power to do it (I'd said beforehand she didnt deserve her admin powers back). Crow was the queen of NSE. In my eyes there was only one suspect - Bayard.
Of course.. I blamed myself for the mass-deletion, and I guess I still do. I did, after all, blow my top at one of the two people with the most power on the site - even though I still stand by what I said. If I hadnt said what I did, she wouldnt have deleted NSE.. but she would have ruined it. No matter what people want to believe, I still reason with my conscience that what I did was best for NSE.
I knew it was Bayard - or at least, firmly believed - and with the proof from Proboards that our server was running perfectly, I finalized my opinion.
To this day, I never want to see Bayards grubby little face on NSE ever again, and if it shows, I'll be ten times angrier than before (:
Haha. Maybe my explanation should be a sticky on Game Info so people can always see whats happened. I know alot of people dont understand the situation and I'm pretty much the only one with the entire story.
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Post by zozo on Jun 1, 2006 17:21:08 GMT -5
Well, I never saw anything wrong with Bayard, but then again, I was only here long enough for her to accept my first charrie, then she left.
But she's never done anything wrong to me, and I realised only a few months ago that she is admin of another rpg that I'm on. Its huge, over 600 members, extremely active and she's a good, loyal admin.
I'm not taking sides, as I wasn't here long enough to know Bayard like you do. And I'm not a close friend or anything, I don't talk to her much. I'm just saying that from what I have seen, she has done nothing wrong to me, and is capable of running a rpg as she has such a huge successful one.
There. Scream and shout at me if it will make you feel any better. But I don't like it when people bitch about each other behind their backs, and can you really truly judge a person only by the internet?
But then again, maybe you're right. And Bayard did sabotage this or whatever, but she's got on with it now. Started on a new one, so you don't have to sit and slag her off. You could be very very wrong about everything. There are hackers, that can hack into the BD account and can delete everything. I've heard of other rp's that are mysteriously deleted, completely wiped out, by random sad people that have nothing better to do.
I've run out of courage now. But if you start having a go at me, Kinneh, I'm not going to reply, and shall just avoid you, but it won't drive me away.
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Post by ashleigh04 on Jun 2, 2006 13:27:59 GMT -5
Claps at Kinneh's story. I'm not sure if i was there for when the boards were wiped or what. I think i was but hey i'm not too sure. I've seen one she's modded on but didn't bother joining when i saw her name. I have seen people moaning about her every now and again on nse and if i ever saw her lurking i would honestly stay well clear.
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Post by Kindred Blue on Jun 2, 2006 13:31:46 GMT -5
I'm not going to have a go at you, Oasis, I have no problem with your opinion :3 Yes, I may sound bitchy, but I really can hold a grudge and thats just the way I am. I don't plan on changing anytime soon. But how I feel about one single person is not going to affect how I treat you - you've not attaced me directly, why should it bother me?
Don't be so worried, hon. I get angry if you insult me, not if you happen to like somebody I don't. That is so five years ago [;
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Post by zozo on Jun 2, 2006 13:46:15 GMT -5
Fine honey -breathes again- I'm just saying, as now people like Dreamer, who don't actually know Bayard, have a biased opinion of her from you.
But holding a grudge is much better than 2-faced people. I hate 2-faced people!
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Post by ashleigh04 on Jun 2, 2006 13:52:13 GMT -5
It's not just Kinneh that made me think of her like that, but if she was being bitchy about Hazel well thats 2 faced. It's other people as well.
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Post by zozo on Jun 2, 2006 14:04:08 GMT -5
I didn't understand that, Dreamer.
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